How Does the James Webb Space Telescope Work? [VIDEO]

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Here’s an excellent in-depth look at the James Webb Space Telescope, an engineering and scentific marvel, currently on its way to the L2 Lagrange point.

I greatly appreciate Dr. John Mather’s time and patience with me. He did a fantastic job of breaking down the design of the telescope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Mather

Thanks to Travis Wohlrab Engagement Officer, NASA Goddard for the tour of testing equipment.
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GET SMARTER SECTION

NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope
https://www.jwst.nasa.gov/

NASA’s Explore Light and compare visible to Infrared:
https://www.nasa.gov/content/explore-light

Many of the NASA 3D models were created by Goddard’s Visualization Studio
https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/

JWST Light Path:
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302 comments
1
Patricia Kayden  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:07:25pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:14:46pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

That’s why sorryantivaxxer . com is such a release for me. I hate these people and I cerebrate their deaths. They can’t keep killing other people once they’re dead.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:19:31pm

Go ahead, chug that silver. IDGAF.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:22:28pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

They will take anything but the vaccine. This is truly messed up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:24:11pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:25:26pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

A cat’s version of Come, See and Conquer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:30:52pm
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jeffreyw  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:31:14pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

Go ahead, chug that silver. IDGAF.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:31:51pm

re: #4 PhillyPretzel

My dad takes colloidal silver. He and mom fell off the edge of sanity a long, long time ago. But I remember a bottle of that crap being around about the time I started jr. high school. I’m so glad they never gave it to any of us kids.

I honestly wish I knew what happened to my parents. When I was a little girl they were not antivax or anti science and went out of their way to make sure we had books about science and nature and all kinds of other cool things. And then they went off the rails. Amway, Hal Lindsay and end times Christian crap, my dad worked for unions( his mom was a shop steward back in the days where not many women were in any position of power) his whole career and became anti union. I will never understand how this happened.

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Unabogie  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:35:13pm

re: #2 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s why sorryantivaxxer . com is such a release for me. I hate these people and I cerebrate their deaths. They can’t keep killing other people once they’re dead.

Absolutely. It’s cathartic to watch these awful people get a karmic reward.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:37:38pm
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jeffreyw  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:37:56pm

soy/ketchup/honey chicken

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:40:06pm
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Unabogie  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:41:33pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

Go ahead, chug that silver. IDGAF.

I guaranteed you she’s not. She’s just an evil grifter who doesn’t mind killing people if she gets rich.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:46:22pm

This is one of the best yet.

Iframe

When I was in Hamburg (Germany) for Christmas last week, I had the opportunity to take this then and now photo. This photo was taken on the Mönckebergstraße on May 3, 1945. After the German General Alwin Wolz formally surrendered the city of Hamburg, the 7th Armoured Division entered the ruined city on May 2, 1945. This photo shows Universal carriers of 1/5th Queen’s Regiment, 7th Armoured Division.

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darthstar  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:47:03pm

Watched The Matrix Revolutions this afternoon - well, Watched the first 40 minutes or so, dozed for 20-30 (breakfast shots, remember?) then watched the last hour and a half of special effects. Good fun. ‘Deeper’ analysis in the spoiler…or a simple comment about the ending.

Click to Reveal

Not exactly sure about the Hollywood happy ending.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:51:13pm

Be careful when you try to make yourself famous. You might make yourself famous.


Update. Here’s the story from 1991:
SEAL Is Among 4 Arrested in Arms-Trafficking Plot
A Navy SEAL, an El Cajon businessman, a part-time electrician and a San Diego State University student were charged Tuesday by federal prosecutors with trafficking in illegal firearms and ammunition, including automatic weapons, assault rifles and grenades.

Federal agents with search warrants Monday seized a virtual arsenal, officials said at a press conference Tuesday at which 35 big guns, including an M-60 machine gun, were displayed. Agents found rifles, shotguns, plastic explosives, grenade launchers and flares—all for sale, officials said Tuesday.

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darthstar  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:53:31pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Be careful when you try to make yourself famous. You might make yourself famous.

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Well, Jared had to learn to be a piece of shit from someone. I’ll bet his dad is happy about the his federal conviction coming back after 30 years…

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:56:17pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

She didn’t write that. Someone with at least a high school diploma did.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:57:54pm

re: #16 darthstar

I thought it was interesting meta commentary on whole concept of franchises, sequels, and making movies, all while playing around with the Matrix mythos of the original and sequels.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2021 • 4:59:32pm

re: #20 lawhawk

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retired cynic  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:10:15pm

Review: The Matrix Resurrections
by John Scalzi
whatever.scalzi.com

Since we’re on this topic.

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Captain Ron  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:10:16pm
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darthstar  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:10:50pm

re: #20 lawhawk

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:13:40pm

Holy fucking fuck. Madison Cawthorn IS THE RED COMMIE COMMUNIST that he keeps warning everyone about! (thread)

Youtube Video

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:17:52pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:20:19pm

Youtube Video

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darthstar  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:20:38pm

re: #25 The Pie Overlord!

Holy fucking fuck. Madison Cawthorn IS THE RED COMMIE COMMUNIST that he keeps warning everyone about! (thread)

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Yeah, and his bride kicked him to the curb as soon as they realized he’d be worthless as an asset. I only wish they thought to guarantee his silence by setting him up with a federal crime that he couldn’t negotiate his way out of once revealed. I want that piece of shit to suffer.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:37:14pm

Just discovered that Gus_802 has me blocked on Twitter when I went to check if he was any better. So hey, there’s my answer I guess.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:41:33pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

He’s very bitter.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:42:35pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I don’t know why he turned so negative; there must have been issues unspoken. But I’ll always be grateful for the support he gave LGF at a very difficult time.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:42:49pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Just discovered that Gus_802 has me blocked on Twitter when I went to check if he was any better. So hey, there’s my answer I guess.

Same. No big loss in my book. He went so far off the rails I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s blocked a bunch of us Lizards.

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Unabogie  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:43:22pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:44:43pm

re: #33 Unabogie

Yep, that’s kind of what I thought might be going on.

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darthstar  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:46:17pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

I don’t know why he turned so negative; there must have been issues unspoken. But I’ll always be grateful for the support he gave LGF at a very difficult time.

I muted him off and on for a few years after he left LGF - haven’t thought about him since I got banned from Twitter (fuckers…I’d like to go back and tell Cawthorn why his wife really kicked him to the curb). He goes through periods where he can be quite insufferable, then he’ll have a few months where he’s witty and downright charming. I do miss having him around here.

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darthstar  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:47:02pm

re: #33 Unabogie

Well, that’s unfortunate…I do hope he was being sarcastic.

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Captain Ron  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:49:18pm
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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:51:13pm

re: #8 jeffreyw

The big benefit of that particular snake oil: clear tagging of its users.

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darthstar  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:51:19pm

re: #37 Ship Faced Ron

If this doesn’t end like the guy who adopted a baby hippo I’ll be disappointed.

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:52:39pm
Click to Reveal

I took a discreet look at Gus’s Twitter feed during the recent transphobic JK Rowling flap a couple of weeks back. Gus clearly has problems with people who do not conform to traditional gender expectations and is offended that they dare to stand up for themselves these days.

Among his many problems. He has become an angry, bitter, reactionary old man ranting at phantoms.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:53:08pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:53:36pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:54:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:55:13pm

Ok, I watched most of “Don’t Look Up” just because I didn’t want to let my aversion to David Sirota stop me, and that aversion probably colors my reaction but I’m not sorry, but this is definitely not a good movie. It’s ham-handed over-obvious satire. I have no idea how they got so many famous actors to participate.

Your mileage may differ. I thought it sucked. Mightily.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 5:56:35pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

I saw the trailer earlier this evening; it looked like a one-joke movie.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:00:01pm

David Sirota probably convinced more than a few progressives and independents not to vote for Hillary Clinton, and helped Donald Trump get elected with his relentless columns attacking Clinton. It fucking pisses me off that he’s now trying to cash in on Trump being elected.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:00:38pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

Go ahead, chug that silver. IDGAF.

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Colloidal silver is a remedy promoted by some for treatment of chronic lyme disease. When there is a disease that the traditional medical establishment either is skeptical about or has no successful remedies to alleviate symptoms, sufferers will gravitate to anyone who promises to cure the disease or at least improve quality of life. Victims of these ailments are desperate.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:01:23pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

re: #45 jaunte

Concur. See my review last night for some stills: littlegreenfootballs.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:01:58pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:03:03pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

Colloidal silver is also a remedy for those people who suffer from fear of having pink skin. So there’s that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:06:22pm
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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:06:26pm
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No Malarkey!  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:08:02pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least she didn’t have to see it reversed, like we will.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:08:03pm

Almost the year 2022, and “major conspiracy influencer” is a job.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:09:09pm

re: #36 darthstar

Well, that’s unfortunate…I do hope he was being sarcastic.

He wasn’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:12:45pm
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A Cranky One  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:12:50pm

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:14:52pm

re: #57 A Cranky One

“They asked me to come in for a taping!”

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RoJo Must Go!  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:16:56pm

re: #57 A Cranky One

Was that X-Ray before or after it was run over, because, absent some cartoon-style tire tracks across it’s abdomen, it’s really hard to tell lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:18:11pm
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Captain Ron  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:20:02pm
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William Lewis  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:22:16pm

re: #32 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Same. No big loss in my book. He went so far off the rails I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s blocked a bunch of us Lizards.

Just checked and _I’m_ blocked. Strange.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:23:45pm

re: #85 Belafon

For some reason, your icons are being rendered like this:

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[Embedded image]And the last one looks like a crab in a circle trying to grab a shell.

Huh. They look fine here.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:26:13pm

re: #40 A Three Hour Tour

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Noticed that huh. Yeah, I need to shut up and get back in the closet……… Or you know, just die,

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:26:43pm

re: #62 William Lewis

Just checked and _I’m_ blocked. Strange.

I blocked him because negative lunacy is a thing I filter out where practical.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:26:54pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Huh. They look fine here.

Same.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:28:09pm

Niterz, lizardz!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:30:01pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Niterz, lizardz!

Rest well my friend.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:30:39pm

“…For more than 40 years, astronomers have known Jupiter’s upper atmosphere is surprisingly hot. Mid-latitude temperatures are about 530° Celsius (990° Fahrenheit). That’s roughly 600 degrees Celsius (1,100 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than they would be if the sun were the planet’s only source of heat.”
…..
“…The temperature over the Great Red Spot is about 1,300 °C. (2,400 °F.), the new data show. That is hot enough to melt some forms of iron.”
sciencenewsforstudents.org

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:43:05pm

Here is someone else who loves being ruled by Republicans.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:46:17pm

now the a-hole is gloating….

F him. (Also, he really doesn’t know what he is talking about).

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(((Archangel1)))  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:49:46pm

re: #32 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Same. No big loss in my book. He went so far off the rails I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s blocked a bunch of us Lizards.

Checked out of curiosity, hasn’t blocked me yet.
But seeing some of his tweets from the past 24 hours makes me wish he would.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:50:06pm

re: #71 I Would Prefer Not To

Doesn’t popularity on streaming services translate to CO2 and methane reduction?

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William Lewis  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:57:31pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 26, 2021 • 6:58:57pm

I hope this combined Christmas and today…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:02:14pm

=deleted by me= already posted above.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:08:49pm

re: #52 jaunte

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:10:31pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

isolated, angry men with nothing to lose

Seems to be the theme of the night.

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Dangerman  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:23:24pm

I haven’t been paying attention the last two days.
Apparently this happened???

This is an emergency Christmas Day warning to President Trump. You are either completely ignorant… or you are one of the most evil men who ever lived… What you told Candace Owens is nothing but a raft of dirty lies.”

— Alex Jones, pushing back on former President Trump’s claim that the coronavirus vaccines work.

Personally, I dont see it and an either /or situation

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:27:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:30:12pm

Dr. Oz Selflessly Protecting Oprah By Asking Her Not To Support His Senate Run (Wonkette)

Snake-oil pushier/Pennsylvania Senate hopeful Dr. Mehmet Oz may not have too many qualms about declaring literally every vitamin or extract or food product he runs into to be a “MIRACLE” drug for weight loss or anti-aging, but there are some lines even he just can’t cross. Supposedly.

At a fancy dinner for fancy Manhattan Republicans at the Smith & Wollensky steakhouse earlier this month, Oz told attendees — including Rudy Giuliani and Bo Dietl — that he selflessly asked Oprah to not get involved with his Senate campaign in order to protect her from potentially being “hurt.”

“I asked her to stay out. Don’t support me because if you get involved in any way, you’ll get hurt and I don’t want my friends hurt,” he said, conveying scenario not entirely unlike the end of Harry and the Hendersons when John Lithgow was all “Go on, get out of here! Can’t you see we don’t want you anymore?” to Harry because he didn’t want him to get caught by Bigfoot hunter Jacques LeFleur.

(more)

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:30:38pm

re: #80 The Pie Overlord!

“Here’s an extra special chocolate pie for you to take home.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:31:35pm

re: #71 I Would Prefer Not To

A comet hitting a planet is not a climate issue, it’s orbital mechanics.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:32:44pm

re: #83 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I haven’t seen the movie, but I think it’s the one metaphor.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:33:33pm

What if it was, like, a planet killing comet, and everyone just ignored it?

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No Malarkey!  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:34:31pm

re: #85 jaunte

What if it was, like, a planet killing comet, and everyone just ignored it?

Yes

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:37:53pm

re: #84 jaunte

I haven’t seen the movie, but I think it’s the one metaphor.

It’s a bad metaphor.

A comet hitting earth is a sudden impact. Sure, there will be consequences forward in time, but “boom” is the primary concern.

The reason we do so little about climate change is because AGW is too slow for most people to notice. The average age voter in the US today will likely die before they experience dire consequences from AGW. That is why people don’t really want to do anything about it.

Poor people in other lands will suffer worse and sooner, but we don’t care about them.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:40:22pm

Regardless, I found it to be a bad movie. It just isn’t funny in the way Idiocracy is, and that movie addresses the nature of American politics too.

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Captain Ron  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:42:20pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:42:51pm

re: #64 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Noticed that huh. Yeah, I need to shut up and get back in the closet……… Or you know, just die,

Click to Reveal

It’s kinda hard to miss. Between the rampant transphobia, the over-the-top hatred of Bernie and the Squad, his insistence that noticing the rising fascism on the Right is merely liberal hysteria, his unhinged hatred of Joe Biden and Biden supporters, and his obsession with “All black crime, all the time,” his posturing as the Last Genuine Moderate is looking more than a little hollow.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:47:32pm

Cringe in that stupid wrapped present thread.

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Captain Ron  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:47:39pm
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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:51:40pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Bing Crosby - Happy Holiday

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mmmirele  Dec 26, 2021 • 7:55:06pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The “pastor,” Wade Burleson, is a friend of a friend. He went completely, utterly nuts over the COVID virus and well, I just let my opinions be known.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:01:07pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Cringe in that stupid wrapped present thread.

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New Year’s is a major holiday around the world and celebrated by millions of people who don’t observe Christmas.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:03:32pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:07:42pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:10:22pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Saw “Don’t Look Up” as well this evening.

I concur.

Shrill, heavy-handed, and pretty much nothing but a constant stream of cliché and cultural tropes in a not very entertaining wrapper.

I would say that it pretty much has something there to insult anyone who wants to be insulted by something.

I’ll give Jonah Hill credit for playing a role well enough I wanted to slap him silly. But that’s also not a great push for his acting talent either, and there are plenty of stupid and smug political figures out there.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:11:12pm

Keep an eye on this (WHO report, 11-19-21)

Assessment of risk associated with highly pathogenic avian influenza A(H5N6) virus

Twenty-six human infections with HPAI A(H5N6) viruses have been reported to WHO in accordance with
the International Health Regulation in 2021 (three cases had illness onset dates in 2020). Of the 26 reported cases, 25 by China and 1 by Lao People’s Democratic Republic (Lao PDR), 10 were reported as fatal with three individuals still hospitalized at the time of writing

It’s contained for now (last new case was in August) but a new outbreak or mutation is possible.

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retired cynic  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:12:16pm

re: #99 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Oh, for f&^*(’s sake… no!

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stpaulbear  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:13:56pm

re: #80 The Pie Overlord!

If one of those packages had been to me I would have taken it outside still wrapped and dropkicked it into the street. But not because of politics.

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William Lewis  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:23:05pm

re: #96 The Pie Overlord!

Forget it, he’s a GREEN: Getting Republicans Elected Every November.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:27:42pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:30:08pm

re: #98 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Saw “Don’t Look Up” as well this evening.

I concur.

Shrill, heavy-handed, and pretty much nothing but a constant stream of cliché and cultural tropes in a not very entertaining wrapper.

I would say that it pretty much has something there to insult anyone who wants to be insulted by something.

I’ll give Jonah Hill credit for playing a role well enough I wanted to slap him silly. But that’s also not a great push for his acting talent either, and there are plenty of stupid and smug political figures out there.

Yeah, it’s not a good movie.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:30:17pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:31:21pm

It’s cold up there!

Ice On Antenna
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retired cynic  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:36:57pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:38:00pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Ok, I watched most of “Don’t Look Up” just because I didn’t want to let my aversion to David Sirota stop me, and that aversion probably colors my reaction but I’m not sorry, but this is definitely not a good movie. It’s ham-handed over-obvious satire. I have no idea how they got so many famous actors to participate.

Your mileage may differ. I thought it sucked. Mightily.

Your thoughts basically mirror those of my wife and I exactly after we watched it.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:39:55pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:52:55pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

So was her cat walking across the keyboard?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 8:56:22pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:00:36pm
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mmmirele  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:15:28pm

re: #71 I Would Prefer Not To

now the a-hole is gloating….

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F him. (Also, he really doesn’t know what he is talking about).

How is a disaster flick about a planet-killing comet about climate change? David Sirota thinks entirely too much of himself. Probably better to watch “Armageddon,” “2012” or “Seeking a Friend for the End of the World.” Or read Ben Winters’ Last Policeman trilogy about how people react when it’s clear a big rock that can’t be stopped is going to destroy the earth.

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:17:42pm

re: #70 The Pie Overlord!

Here is someone else who loves being ruled by Republicans.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:18:12pm

Man, my Twitter mentions are a major trash fire. I seem to have enraged the dirtbag left by saying mean things about David Sirota.

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retired cynic  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:19:32pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

awwwww

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wrenchwench  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:21:57pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Man, my Twitter mentions are a major trash fire. I seem to have enraged the dirtbag left by saying mean things about David Sirota.

Are you throwing a block party?

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:23:33pm

I thought Matrix Resurrection was an OK movie.

Click to Reveal

I wonder if Lana tried to explain in the early part of the movie why it was made.

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mmmirele  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:24:40pm

What the hell happened between last Christmas and this Christmas? Fireworks stands can set up two weeks before Christmas, but the kids waited until New Year’s Eve to set them off (very loud and annoying, but only one 24 hour period more or less). This year has been different. Kids were setting off a lot of fireworks on Christmas Eve, Christmas night and again tonight. WTF gives? I mean, it’s LEGAL, I can’t call the cops, but the kids used to wait until New Year’s Eve. What happened?

/now get offa my lawn!

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:25:15pm

Charles, could you make the hide button act on selected text the same way the formatting buttons do? If I select some text and hit bold, it adds the appropriate markers. Could the hide and private buttons add that text to the dialog that pops up?

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wrenchwench  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:30:43pm

re: #120 Belafon

Charles, could you make the hide button act on selected text the same way the formatting buttons do? If I select some text and hit bold, it adds the appropriate markers. Could the hide and private buttons add that text to the dialog that pops up?

Seconded. I think I tried to do that with the Hidden Section button last week.

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:32:21pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:45:13pm

In 3 weeks I’m twice that, but I don’t know her (I just follow her), and I’m not going to talk about it on twitter. Around here, I’m about Medium, so I don’t see a need to talk about it here, either. [Wouldn’t ‘neither’ be grammatically correct?]

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:51:48pm

re: #123 wrenchwench

. [Wouldn’t ‘neither’ be grammatically correct?]

Double negative, I think. “I’m not going to talk about it either,” but “neither am I going to talk about it.”

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:57:16pm
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Belafon  Dec 26, 2021 • 9:57:52pm

Just thinking about NASA hiring theologians. They could have saved a lot of money by just watching Contact.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:08:26pm

Thread, six tweets.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:11:00pm

re: #126 Belafon

Just thinking about NASA hiring theologians. They could have saved a lot of money by just watching Contact.

As I noted yesterday about this, I think it’s an unconstitutional diversion of federal tax money to a specific Christian religious organisation.

NASA didn’t ask what I think though, and this was put in place by President Biden’s Catholic NASA director (the same guy who cited Bible versus upon the successful launch of the James Webb Space Telescope in a press conference, praised God, and failed to mention ESA’s contribution to this).

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Semper Fi  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:14:42pm

re: #70 The Pie Overlord!

Here is someone else who loves being ruled by Republicans.

I must confess, Mr Madman, I’ve had similar thoughts but I still do not accept that.

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:17:09pm

re: #122 Belafon

In her subsequent thread, someone left this, and I thought people here might appreciate it:

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:26:04pm

re: #72 (((Archangel1)))

Checked out of curiosity, hasn’t blocked me yet.
But seeing some of his tweets from the past 24 hours makes me wish he would.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:27:56pm

Watching The Silent Sea on NF. Only on ep. 3, and it kind of has an Alien vibe to it. Pleasantly surprised to see one of the main characters from Squid Game.

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Targetpractice  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:28:32pm

Adding my two cents to the Resurrections discussion up above:

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:29:12pm

I went to go look up some stuff on the Cowboys win over the Washington We-Hope-No-One-Notices-When-We-Change-Back-To-The-Redskins, and they have now had 19 different people score a touchdown for the team. Two of the three new ones tonight were on defense.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:42:05pm

re: #102 William Lewis

Forget it, he’s a GREEN: Getting Republicans Elected Every November.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:53:19pm

re: #135 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Looks like a BernieBro not a libertarian.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:55:17pm

Zinnia Jones goes after the Daily Fail in yet another article trying to tie Tik Tok to some sort of horrible “rise” in gender dysphoria and surgery amongst teens, whilst erasing trans people and taking a side swipe at atheists for good measure (five tweets)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 26, 2021 • 10:57:49pm

re: #136 Hecuba’s daughter

Looks like a BernieBro not a libertarian.

Any more, I can’t tell them apart.

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William Lewis  Dec 26, 2021 • 11:03:09pm

re: #136 Hecuba’s daughter

Looks like a BernieBro not a libertarian.

He’s an ass. Bernie or Libertarian bro is ultimately irrelevant ;)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 11:04:21pm

Quite a lot of people having fun with this.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 26, 2021 • 11:06:23pm

re: #137 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Zinnia Jones goes after the Daily Fail in yet another article trying to tie Tik Tok to some sort of horrible “rise” in gender dysphoria and surgery amongst teens, whilst erasing trans people and taking a side swipe at atheists for good measure (five tweets)

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Soon to be picked up and pushed by the BBC. It’s kinda weird that a minority demographic as small as mine is, is also the largest threat to the civilized world.
And sadly enough, that isn’t even snark. We’re going to erase CISHET women AND Lesbians all in one fell swoop to hear the pundits.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 11:24:19pm

re: #141 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Soon to be picked up and pushed by the BBC. It’s kinda weird that a minority demographic as small as mine is, is also the largest threat to the civilized world.
And sadly enough, that isn’t even snark. We’re going to erase CISHET women AND Lesbians all in one fell swoop to hear the pundits.

Everything is a threat to conservatives. To hear them tell it, we atheists will be not only the downfall of Christianity, but all religions for all time.

The BS surrounding trans erasure isn’t that much different than a few years ago when Teh Geyhs were going to destroy “traditional marriage.” Before that it was miscegenation.

Conservatives’ worlds keep getting smaller.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 11:25:28pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 26, 2021 • 11:34:38pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Everything is a threat to conservatives. To hear them tell it, we atheists will be not only the downfall of Christianity, but all religions for all time.

The BS surrounding trans erasure isn’t that much different than a few years ago when Teh Geyhs were going to destroy “traditional marriage.” Before that it was miscegenation.

Conservatives’ worlds keep getting smaller.

Something the so called LGB alliance seems to have forgotten. If the TERF/GC crowd succeed in shoving us back into the closet, they WILL be next. And with that I’m heading back to bed for a bit more sleep.

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William Lewis  Dec 26, 2021 • 11:36:29pm

Mood? My mood is good… ;)

Foo Fighters & Violet Grohl - Nausea (Lollapalooza 2021)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 26, 2021 • 11:54:12pm

re: #144 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Something the so called LGB alliance seems to have forgotten. If the TERF/GC crowd succeed in shoving us back into the closet, they WILL be next. And with that I’m heading back to bed for a bit more sleep.

Speaking of the LBG alliance, they can throw together disjointed words as well as Republicans.

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Belafon  Dec 27, 2021 • 12:07:06am

re: #120 Belafon

Charles, could you make the hide button act on selected text the same way the formatting buttons do? If I select some text and hit bold, it adds the appropriate markers. Could the hide and private buttons add that text to the dialog that pops up?

Or maybe just adds the tags directly in the edit box.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 12:12:38am

Twitter caved.

Atheist Republic’s account has been restored after more than a month.

(Atheist Republic is an on-line group where atheists can connect, helps get atheists out of countries where being an atheist carries the death penalty, opposes blasphemy law, and helps atheists in the United States escape from oppressive families or threats of death. The existence of the group offends Hindus in India and the USA and Christians in the USA. One of Atheist Republic’s leaders is still being sued in a Michigan court for blasphemy against Hinduism and a demand she be turned over by the state to stand trial in India.)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 27, 2021 • 12:41:28am

True

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 27, 2021 • 12:58:19am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 1:15:39am

Harvard adds caste bias protections for graduate student workers (NBC News)

Harvard University is the latest U.S. school to add measures protecting caste-oppressed students following a push from graduate workers and a national organization.

Since March, South Asian graduate student organizers have tried to point out to the university’s administration what they say is a real problem on campuses across the U.S.: discrimination based on the Hindu caste system.

Those born into lower castes, known as Dalits in India’s deeply rooted hierarchies, have faced violence and oppression on the subcontinent for thousands of years. Though the system is now illegal in India, its impact is still far-reaching and can manifest themselves in a lack of social and economic mobility.

With the increase in South Asian immigration to the U.S. since the 1980s and ’90s, the hierarchies have been carried overseas.

Twenty-five percent of Dalits in the U.S. report having faced verbal or physical assault, according to research by Equality Labs, an organization dedicated to ending white supremacy and casteism. One in 3 Dalit students also reported experiencing prejudice that affected their education, the study found.

(more)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 27, 2021 • 1:19:03am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 27, 2021 • 1:28:17am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 1:44:05am

A $150 billion lawsuit over genocide may force Facebook to confront its dark side (WGBH)

Facebook is being sued for facilitating the Rohingya genocide in Burma.

How much of a financial hit would it take to force Mark Zuckerberg sit up and pay attention?

We can be reasonably sure he didn’t lose any sleep when British authorities fined Facebook a paltry $70 million earlier this fall for withholding information about its acquisition of Giphy, an app for creating and hosting animated graphics. Maybe he stirred a bit in July 2019, when the Federal Trade Commission whacked the company with a $5 billion penalty for violating its users’ privacy — a punishment described by the FTC as “the largest ever imposed” in such a case. But then he probably rolled over and caught a few more z’s.

OK, how about $150 billion? Would that do it?

We may be about to find out. Because that’s the price tag lawyers for Rohingya refugees placed on a class-action lawsuit they filed in California last week against Facebook — excuse me, make that Meta Platforms. As reported by Kelvin Chan of The Associated Press, the suit claims that Facebook’s actions in Myanmar stirred up violence in a way that “amounted to a substantial cause, and eventual perpetuation of, the Rohingya genocide.”

Even by Zuckerberg’s standards, $150 billion is a lot of money. Facebook’s revenues in 2020 were just a shade under $86 billion. And though the pricetags lawyers affix on lawsuits should always be taken with several large shakers of salt, the case over genocide in Myanmar could be just the first step in holding Facebook to account for the way its algorithms amplify hate speech and disinformation.

(more)

This effort is being carried out in multiple countries against Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg personally.

In the case in California, to get around the problem of the I Amendment and Supreme Court cases saying hate speech can only be prosecuted if it incites imminent lawless action and to get around Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, the case is being brought as a commerce action alleging Facebook is a fundamentally defective product. The reasoning is its algorithms deliver more and extreme content when searching on particular subjects, as revealed by Facebook’s whistleblower to the SEC and Congress with internal documents from the company.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 2:14:10am

The CDC and Cochrane Review weigh in on the best sort of Covid-19 test you should get, and under what situations (potential exposure, isolated rural area, frequent crowding such as sporting events, &c).

TL;DR, in order of best to worst tests:

-Laboratory Molecular (and PCR) tests (not all molecular tests are PCR tests)

turn-around time is two to three days but depends on the facility used
some facilities can turn around a laboratory molecular or PCR test in less than an hour

-Rapid Antigen Test
advantage is speed, at the expense of accuracy
more useful when administered every day

-At-Home Test Kits and Collection Kits (not the same thing)
collection kits are for sending samples to a lab for a PCR test
at home test kits are a full antigen test kit
these are the least accurate, because there is no supervision of sample technique
useful when you live a long way from a lab, or are fearful of laboratory testing

-Antibody (serology) Tests
not useful to detect a current infection
only really accurate three weeks or so after an infection
not clear how much antibody concentration actually protects you from reinfection
not recommended by the CDC

What Kind Of COVID-19 Test Should You Take? Here’s A Guide. (Huffington Post, details at the link)

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ericblair  Dec 27, 2021 • 2:54:10am

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

[tweet] If white people think their kids feeling guilty about their ancestors enslaving, raping & slaughtering entire races of people is bad; imagine how it is for kids who have to learn that their ancestors were put through that & yet we’re still catering to how it makes white kids feel

Can’t find the reference, but I heard one educator say that the MAGAts aren’t worried about their poor kids widdle feewings, but that the kids accept what the horrible libtards are teaching them and, horrors, actually agree with it. When you walk through the real history of civil rights in the US, it makes complete sense, because it’s true.

This sounds more believable than the kids widdle feewings argument, since the MAGAts don’t care about others’ well being at all, including their family’s, and the only thing that they do really care about is obedience to the dogma.

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steve_davis  Dec 27, 2021 • 3:31:15am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is the advantage of only actually liking people in very small doses. I’m like the fellow whose name eludes me from the twilight zone episode (burgess?) who’s ecstatic because everything gets nuked and he finally has time to read his way through the remains of the library.

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Ming5000  Dec 27, 2021 • 3:40:59am

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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Dave von Ebers
@DavefromTR1
*
Dec 26, 2021
I think one of the most annoying and destructive trends in punditry today is telling everyone not to be angry or express anger over COVID denialism.

I just learned that I am an “alarmist”!

Edit: Adding this idiot’s “take”. I know this has been discussed and posted a lot at LGF.
wisdomofcrowds.live

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Thanos  Dec 27, 2021 • 3:52:51am

re: #157 steve_davis

This is the advantage of only actually liking people in very small doses. I’m like the fellow whose name eludes me from the twilight zone episode (burgess?) who’s ecstatic because everything gets nuked and he finally has time to read his way through the remains of the library.

One of my favorite episodes, I think he was actually in four or five:

twilightzone.fandom.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 4:03:44am
In December 1940, as America was emerging from the Great Depression, more than 5,000 industrialists from across the nation made their yearly pilgrimage to the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City, convening for the annual meeting of the National Association of Manufacturers. The program promised an impressive slate of speakers: titans at General Motors, General Electric, Standard Oil, Mutual Life, and Sears, Roebuck; popular lecturers such as etiquette expert Emily Post and renowned philosopher-historian Will Durant; even FBI director J. Edgar Hoover. Tucked away near the end of the program was a name few knew initially, but one everyone would be talking about by the convention’s end: Reverend James W. Fifield Jr.

Handsome, tall, and somewhat gangly, the 41-year-old Congregationalist minister bore more than a passing resemblance to Jimmy Stewart. Addressing the crowd of business leaders, Fifield delivered a passionate defense of the American system of free enterprise and a withering assault on its perceived enemies in Franklin D. Roosevelt’s administration. Decrying the New Deal’s “encroachment upon our American freedoms,” the minister listed a litany of sins committed by the Democratic government, ranging from its devaluation of currency to its disrespect for the Supreme Court. Singling out the regulatory state for condemnation, he denounced “the multitude of federal agencies attached to the executive branch” and warned ominously of “the menace of autocracy approaching through bureaucracy.”

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How Corporate America Invented Christian America (Princeton history professor Kevin Kruse writing at Politico, April 16, 2015)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 27, 2021 • 4:09:47am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Speaking of the LBG alliance, they can throw together disjointed words as well as Republicans.

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Not surprising since they get funding from U.S. Evangelical organizations such as the Heritage Foundation.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Dec 27, 2021 • 4:12:10am

re: #157 steve_davis

This is the advantage of only actually liking people in very small doses. I’m like the fellow whose name eludes me from the twilight zone episode (burgess?) who’s ecstatic because everything gets nuked and he finally has time to read his way through the remains of the library.

I like most people in small doses, but even I’m getting that feeling of “my life is wasting away” right now because of this. Small doses is still some doses, rather than no doses.

If I was 18 or 81 I’d probably feel it much worse.

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ericblair  Dec 27, 2021 • 4:19:11am

re: #157 steve_davis

This is the advantage of only actually liking people in very small doses. I’m like the fellow whose name eludes me from the twilight zone episode (burgess?) who’s ecstatic because everything gets nuked and he finally has time to read his way through the remains of the library.

I’ve heard the expression “people meter”. If you’re an introvert, you can enjoy other people’s company immensely, but get worn out by them and need to go off and recharge. So you can have a very small people meter that fills quickly.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 27, 2021 • 4:24:19am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Ok, I watched most of “Don’t Look Up” just because I didn’t want to let my aversion to David Sirota stop me, and that aversion probably colors my reaction but I’m not sorry, but this is definitely not a good movie. It’s ham-handed over-obvious satire. I have no idea how they got so many famous actors to participate.

Your mileage may differ. I thought it sucked. Mightily.

I thought it was brilliant!

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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2021 • 4:32:13am

Dead

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 4:35:46am

re: #165 Dave In Austin

Dead

They’re way behind (about five days behind).

Fred “The Undertaker” Sinistra, 41, Belgium, Kick-boxer, dead from COVID (Goes to Sorry Antivaxxer)

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2021 • 4:51:45am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2021 • 4:58:49am

Dead soon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:12:23am

re: #168 Dave In Austin

Dead soon

That would be this guy.

Doug Kuzma, 61, Newport News, VA, Right wing podcaster, in ICU with COVID. (Goes to Sorry Antivaxxer, December 26, 2021).

He went into the hospital on Christmas Day. This guy is a real frickin’ nutbar, entangled with the likes of L. Lin Wood. (Wood is trying to find other attorneys to sue the hospital.) Said nutbar promised in his social media posts that he wouldn’t go to the hospital because “they kill you and call it Covid.” Like so many conservatives, he lied.

The article includes photographs of the church event where they claim they were poisoned by anthrax.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:13:39am
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darthstar  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:14:45am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Ok, I watched most of “Don’t Look Up” just because I didn’t want to let my aversion to David Sirota stop me, and that aversion probably colors my reaction but I’m not sorry, but this is definitely not a good movie. It’s ham-handed over-obvious satire. I have no idea how they got so many famous actors to participate.

Your mileage may differ. I thought it sucked. Mightily.

I tried to watch it last night…may finish it during the day this week. The actors were by and large phoning it in with their roles. Meryl Streep, whom my wife really doesn’t care for in movies to begin with, looked bored with her role as president not to mention how shallow that character was (Sirota must have issues with women playing powerful roles). Anyway, when Meryl finished her first scene, she left the room. The morning show ‘The Rip’ was like a page out of Idiocracy…it’s got electrolytes! Maybe some clown horn and sad trombone sound effects would have helped.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:15:05am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:20:53am

re: #170 lawhawk

If I allow a tiny amount of latitude for the Wall Street Journal, they are a newspaper which primarily reports on business and economics, while the New York Times reports on general news.

That’s about the limit of my latitude.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:21:40am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That would be this guy.

Doug Kuzma, 61, Newport News, VA, Right wing podcaster, in ICU with COVID. (Goes to Sorry Antivaxxer, December 26, 2021).

He went into the hospital on Christmas Day. This guy is a real frickin’ nutbar, entangled with the likes of L. Lin Wood. (Wood is trying to find other attorneys to sue the hospital.) Said nutbar promised in his social media posts that he wouldn’t go to the hospital because “they kill you and call it Covid.” Like so many conservatives, he lied.

The article includes photographs of the church event where they claim they were poisoned by anthrax.

So, #FAFO gets a Plus One.

I’m so over these antivax nutjobs endangering the lives of everyone around them. They are sociopaths. We need to use that word.

Why?

Because their actions are antisocial and pose a health threat to everyone around them, including themselves. Even if most people are vaccinated, there’s enough antivaxxers around who can and do get covid19 to clog up hospitals, ERs, ICUs, urgent care, and primary care docs to the point where health care delivery collapses. It might not be every locality, but there are plenty. Most of these are in GOP strongholds, because the antivax position is closely held as a political belief. They think that vaccinating is bad, and that getting covid is better, but you better give them treatments that they found online via google, instead of listening to the doctors actually trying to save their lives (both preventatively by vaccinating, and then with heroic measures that include respirators, ECMOs, and the like). HCQ isn’t a cure or a treatment or a preventative. Vaccines work.

Antivaxxers claim that needing boosters is proof vaccinations don’t work or that it’s meant to string out the crisis. That’s total bulkshit, because pretty much every vaccine developed requires periodic boosters. Some are given every few months. Some are given years apart. All the while, case counts are soaring, hospitals are overflowing in places once again, and the body count rises - highest among those who aren’t vaccinated.

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Ming5000  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:28:02am
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jeffreyw  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:29:38am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:32:16am

re: #174 lawhawk

Even if most people are vaccinated, there’s enough antivaxxers around who can and do get covid19 to clog up hospitals, ERs, ICUs, urgent care, and primary care docs to the point where health care delivery collapses. It might not be every locality, but there are plenty. Most of these are in GOP strongholds, because the antivax position is closely held as a political belief.

We have one major hospital here, in Scottsbluff, which serves the entire Nebraska Panhandle and parts of southeast Wyoming. In theory Alliance General Hospital can handle Covid-19 but they only have a total of twenty-five beds (and the CEO of the hospital is an antivaxxer, as noted in the Alliance newspaper … she is letting unvaccinated staff continue to work there.) If Scottsbluff’s hospital is overloaded, in medical technical terms, we’re fooked.

The next nearest major hospitals would be in Cheyenne or Denver, and they already have their problems.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:34:12am

Brr.

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ericblair  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:38:52am

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If I allow a tiny amount of latitude for the Wall Street Journal, they are a newspaper which primarily reports on business and economics, while the New York Times reports on general news.

That’s about the limit of my latitude.

The usual rationale is that the WSJ is for rich people, and lying about the news could mean rich people unnecessarily losing money, therefore anything money-related in the WSJ is played straight. They make up for it by having an opinion page stuffed with right-wing knuckle-draggers.

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The Squire of Logos  Dec 27, 2021 • 5:49:19am

re: #176 jeffreyw

Oh deer!

Youtube Video

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Ming5000  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:10:38am

True. Why was Trump’s loss such a jolt for MAGAs?

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:17:45am

re: #181 Ming5000

It’s weird.

Had Trump done a halfway competent job of handling the pandemic, he would have won reelection handily. His disastrous handling of the pandemic, the body count, and the wrecked economy all ran against him.

Even then, a handful of states had close calls in Biden’s favor - again because of the pandemic and turnout favoring Democrats.

GOP intend to make that more difficult by suppressing turnout. They don’t want people voting, because when they do, they aren’t voting for the GOPers.

The other thing is that the GOP and right wing exist in a media bubble. It’s a pocket universe where down is up, right is wrong, and morality is irrelevant - power is the sole motivating thing and imposing pain and cruelty on their enemies is their way of reminding people of their place. When all these people hear and see are Trump rallies with 1000s of people, they think he’s got the support that it takes to win.

And polling is showing itself to be as sketchy as always. GOPers have also called into question the very act of voting and tabulating those votes because they know how timing of those counted votes matter. We can get in-person voting tabulated quickly, but mail ballots take longer, and more people voted by mail in 2020 than at any point in our history. So, early counts went GOP because they voted in person to a greater degree in key states, but the mail in ballots overwhelmed that early advantage.

GOP pollsters and leaders knew this, but sought to cast the mail ballots as somehow illegitimate. So, they were fine potentially disenfranchising millions in the process.

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Teukka  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:18:27am

Soo… Scrolled by this over at reddit…

Iframe

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:19:29am

re: #175 Ming5000

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It’s been my belief for the longest time now that assholes in charge at the time expected everything to be “over” by August 2020. That COVID would run rampant over the summer months in “blue” cities and states and then burn itself out as people went back into the semi-isolation of the fall/winter months. Too many of them bought their own bullshit that it was a “mild” disease that’s “no different from the flu” and assumed that it would operate by the exact same mechanics.

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:20:08am

re: #182 lawhawk

It’s weird.

Had Trump done a halfway competent job of handling the pandemic, he would have won reelection handily. His disastrous handling of the pandemic, the body count, and the wrecked economy all ran against him.

Even then, a handful of states had close calls in Biden’s favor - again because of the pandemic and turnout favoring Democrats.

GOP intend to make that more difficult by suppressing turnout. They don’t want people voting, because when they do, they aren’t voting for the GOPers.

The other thing is that the GOP and right wing exist in a media bubble. It’s a pocket universe where down is up, right is wrong, and morality is irrelevant - power is the sole motivating thing and imposing pain and cruelty on their enemies is their way of reminding people of their place. When all these people hear and see are Trump rallies with 1000s of people, they think he’s got the support that it takes to win.

And polling is showing itself to be as sketchy as always. GOPers have also called into question the very act of voting and tabulating those votes because they know how timing of those counted votes matter. We can get in-person voting tabulated quickly, but mail ballots take longer, and more people voted by mail in 2020 than at any point in our history. So, early counts went GOP because they voted in person to a greater degree in key states, but the mail in ballots overwhelmed that early advantage.

GOP pollsters and leaders knew this, but sought to cast the mail ballots as somehow illegitimate. So, they were fine potentially disenfranchising millions in the process.

today’s electoral-vote.com

This is the ultimate irony, because Trump did help create Operation Warp Speed to fund quick development of a vaccine for COVID-19 and it succeeded. If he had campaigned on the theme: “Due to my brilliant leadership, we now have a vaccine that can protect everyone from this awful disease” he might well have been reelected. Getting the Trump Vaccine™ could have been a part of Republican dogma, but Trump got on the vaccine bandwagon much too late (even though he was personally vaccinated early on) so his supporters never jumped on and refuse to do so now.

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:22:21am

re: #184 Targetpractice

It’s been my belief for the longest time now that assholes in charge at the time expected everything to be “over” by August 2020. That COVID would run rampant over the summer months in “blue” cities and states and then burn itself out as people went back into the semi-isolation of the fall/winter months. Too many of them bought their own bullshit that it was a “mild” disease that’s “no different from the flu” and assumed that it would operate by the exact same mechanics.

the problem now is they’ve really morphed into a lunatic position from which there is no going back - also electoral-vote.com

Various high-profile MAGAworld figures have attacked Trump now. “Stop the steal” organizer Ali Alexander wrote: “Trump, stop. Just stop. Have your position (backed by Fauci) and allow us to have ours (which is backed by science).” Alex Jones was less generous. He said: “Hell, we’re fighting Bill Gates and Fauci and Biden and the New World Order and Psaki and the Davos Group. And now we’ve got Trump on their team!” Ron Watkins, a prominent QAnoner, said the shots were “subscription suicide shots.”

Yesterday, Anthony Fauci told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that he was stunned that Trump was booed for recommending that everyone get vaccinated. Fauci said he didn’t realize how ingrained the opposition to vaccines was with Trump’s supporters. However, he hopes that Trump continues to advocate for vaccinations.

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Teukka  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:23:11am

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:26:48am

re: #185 Dangerman

Warp Speed was about cutting red tape. It succeeded in as much as doing so was part of the GOP mantra of destroying the administrative state and guardrails and protections that regulatory oversight provide.

But we also know that Trump, Pence, Jared and his covid task force didn’t give a shit about logistics or anything else relating to the pandemic. They wanted credit for the existence of Warp Speed and the existence of a vaccine (Pfizer’s was first to US market, and it was developed in Europe w/BioNTech), not that it would be easily obtainable or provided to the states for distribution easily and quickly. Logistics was completely beyond their grasp or care. We saw this with the PPE debacle too.

There’s a reason that Fauci tried to limit masking at the outset - because health care workers were scrambling for the same items and their needs had to be prioritized. Save the health care workers from being decimated and completely wrecking health care delivery in the US. Trump didn’t care about that either, so he made a sport of having states compete against each other for scarce materials. But once things got to a certain point, masking became necessary for everyone.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:27:37am

re: #181 Ming5000

True. Why was Trump’s loss such a jolt for MAGAs?

Because conservatism is a religion. It is very easy to see as an atheist.

It has articles of faith which cannot be questioned or you become an apostate, an entire body of apologetics over centuries to justify its one main tenet (the deserving rise in power and influence, and those who don’t are not deserving), intellectual heavyweights who justify its tenets and prelates and preachers (Republican politicians) who repeat its assertions.

The loss by Donald Trump was the repudiation that their religious faith in conservatism was not true. To any religious person, facing up to the idea that tenets of their faith are not true causes cognitive dissonance.

Christian apologists are infamous for trying to justify rape, genocide, and slavery in the Old Testament as just, while ignoring Jesus in the New Testament saying he did not come to bring peace, but a sword; or that not one jot nor tittle of the Law would change until all was complete. To acknowledge that Jesus means to acknowledge their preaching that Jesus is about love and acceptance is wrong.

When you confuse “what you believe” with “who you are,” being shown you are utterly wrong means the death of a part of yourself.

To many that is intolerable.

Thus it is with conservatism, which can only be failed and not fail itself. Donald Trump failed to win. Therefore conservative voters must either accept that they were wrong, or they must resist the unravelling of their religious faith.

Likewise with Covid-19. Their conservative prelates (Republican politicians) from their leader on down told them that it is no worse than the flu, it will soon disappear, &c. They will die rather than give up a part of themselves. That means their faith is based in a lie.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:30:42am
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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:38:33am

re: #188 lawhawk

Warp Speed was about cutting red tape. It succeeded in as much as doing so was part of the GOP mantra of destroying the administrative state and guardrails and protections that regulatory oversight provide.

But we also know that Trump, Pence, Jared and his covid task force didn’t give a shit about logistics or anything else relating to the pandemic. They wanted credit for the existence of Warp Speed and the existence of a vaccine (Pfizer’s was first to US market, and it was developed in Europe w/BioNTech), not that it would be easily obtainable or provided to the states for distribution easily and quickly. Logistics was completely beyond their grasp or care. We saw this with the PPE debacle too.

There’s a reason that Fauci tried to limit masking at the outset - because health care workers were scrambling for the same items and their needs had to be prioritized. Save the health care workers from being decimated and completely wrecking health care delivery in the US. Trump didn’t care about that either, so he made a sport of having states compete against each other for scarce materials. But once things got to a certain point, masking became necessary for everyone.

you are right on all counts

unfortunately these people live by the sound bite
and they’d have had it with “The Trump Vaccine™”
none of the truth or detail would have mattered

as it never does

they come up with a bumper sticker lie

then we have to write pages and pages explaining why it’s a lie, how it became a lie, how it was never true, couldnt possibly, be, how it’s going to literally kill you, etc

and they still don’t care

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:42:59am

re: #191 Dangerman

you are right on all counts

unfortunately these people live by the sound bite
and they’d have had it with “The Trump Vaccine™”
none of the truth or detail would have mattered

as it never does

they come up with a bumper sticker lie

then we have to write pages and pages explaining why it’s a lie, how it became a lie, how it was never true, couldnt possibly, be, how it’s going to literally kill you, etc

and they still don’t care

and the irony, if there is one, is the last paragraph of the e-v.com post

The crowd turning on Trump bares a reality that is not often stated (though we’ve pointed it out a couple of times): Trump doesn’t actually lead the MAGA crowd. He merely is pretty good at figuring out where it wants to go and getting in front of it so it looks like he is leading it. Once in a rare while—like right now—he guesses wrong. Instead of changing direction to follow the leader, the crowd boos the leader and continues to do what it was going to do anyway….

so yes, there’s a chance the mob might not have bought into vaccines and masks at the start, but a critical mass of them probably would have

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:43:08am

re: #186 Dangerman

the problem now is they’ve really morphed into a lunatic position from which there is no going back - also electoral-vote.com

What’s hilarious about this is that it was an article of faith in the media this time last year that if Dems would just give Trump total credit for the vaccines (perhaps even declaring it “The Trump”), then MAGAts would flood clinics and pharmacies to get their shots, bringing a quick end to the pandemic as vaccinations soared.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:48:02am

re: #193 Targetpractice

What’s hilarious about this is that it was an article of faith in the media this time last year that if Dems would just give Trump total credit for the vaccines (perhaps even declaring it “The Trump”), then MAGAts would flood clinics and pharmacies to get their shots, bringing a quick end to the pandemic as vaccinations soared.

They might very well have. We don’t have that alternative history to examine though, we can only guess.

Had Donald Trump been straightforward from the start (LOL … . gasp … LOL), all of his lesser prelates from Senator down to town councilmember would have been all singing from the same hymnal. Their televangelist networks like FOX and Newsmax would have repeated what their ministers said. Their entire religious bubble would have been filled with conservative politicians and apologists telling them all the same thing.

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sagehen  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:48:15am

re: #181 Ming5000

True. Why was Trump’s loss such a jolt for MAGAs?

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Because they heard us whining about the electoral college advantage of rural states, they’ve seen 2000 and 2016 go to the candidate with less popular vote because of that rural-state advantage…. and they thought it would happen again. (I was concerned about it too; not an unreasonable expectation)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:51:17am

re: #195 sagehen

Because they heard us whining about the electoral college advantage of rural states, they’ve seen 2000 and 2016 go to the candidate with less popular vote because of that rural-state advantage…. and they thought it would happen again. (I was concerned about it too; not an unreasonable expectation)

That almost makes me wonder if rural states should divide their electoral votes the way Nebraska and Maine do. In 2020, both states split their electoral votes between Biden and Trump.

However, the GOP in undivided states aren’t going to do that; it would be suicide. The GOP is on record here saying they want to abolish the divided electoral college in Nebraska (they don’t have the votes to get that though).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:56:18am

Long past sunrise here; time for bed. Catch y’all later.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2021 • 6:59:36am

re: #185 Dangerman

today’s electoral-vote.com

This nugget half way down the page:

Another Reaction to the Texas Abortion Law
Two weeks ago, we noted that California wants to get into the vigilante business, like Texas, by offering a $10,000 bounty to anyone who manufactures, distributes, or sells an assault weapon or ghost gun kit/parts in California.

Now Pennsylvania wants to jump in, as well. State Rep. Chris Rabb (D) has announced a bill that will require men to get a vasectomy within 6 weeks of the birth of their third child or their 40th birthday, whichever comes first. As in Texas, there would be a $10,000 reward for anyone reporting a violator.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:06:42am

re: #198 darthstar

So I gather the PA Law is meant to be a somewhat gender flipped version of the TX law to highlight how stupid and restrictive it is?

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cat-tikvah  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:11:21am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes. Chris Rabb is a gem.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:27:44am

re: #19 Ace Rothstein

[Boebert] didn’t write that. Someone with at least a high school diploma did.

The US military considers Climate Change a serious national security threat. Why does she hate the military? is it too “woke” for her?

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:29:33am

re: #198 darthstar

This nugget half way down the page:

oh yeah….

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:30:10am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

So I gather the PA Law is meant to be a somewhat gender flipped version of the TX law to highlight how stupid and restrictive it is?

yeah but it’s got no chance to actually be enacted

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:33:26am

re: #176 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:41:04am

PSA for all you Winter Wonderland freaks. Fuck Off! (4” today so far)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:51:35am

re: #119 mmmirele

What the hell happened between last Christmas and this Christmas? Fireworks stands can set up two weeks before Christmas, but the kids waited until New Year’s Eve to set them off (very loud and annoying, but only one 24 hour period more or less). This year has been different. Kids were setting off a lot of fireworks on Christmas Eve, Christmas night and again tonight. WTF gives? I mean, it’s LEGAL, I can’t call the cops, but the kids used to wait until New Year’s Eve. What happened?

/now get offa my lawn!

In Germany, public fireworks are legal between 10pm and 2am on New Years Eve. But this year they have been restricted to private property to discourage public outdoor gatherings.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:53:41am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

So I gather the PA Law is meant to be a somewhat gender flipped version of the TX law to highlight how stupid and restrictive it is?

Yep…but it’s obvious political theater…PA house is GOP controlled…and the only hope is that it gets some media play so guys can run around saying, “My dick my choice.”

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:53:52am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The US military considers Climate Change a serious national security threat. Why does she hate the military? is it too “woke” for her?

The defense sector has considered climate change a strategic threat for a very long time. Aberdeen Proving Ground demonstrated an electric HMMWV about 20 years ago. At about the same time the Air Force flew a B-52 on bio-fuel. The first mention of global warming I ever saw was in an even earlier CIA open pub about “What happens with a 2-degree rise in China?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:54:04am

re: #141 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Soon to be picked up and pushed by the BBC. It’s kinda weird that a minority demographic as small as mine is, is also the largest threat to the civilized world.
And sadly enough, that isn’t even snark. We’re going to erase CISHET women AND Lesbians all in one fell swoop to hear the pundits.

Somehow your group is seen as a major threat to our moral fortitude and by extension, the very survival of society and humanity…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2021 • 7:57:04am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How much of a financial hit would it take to force Mark Zuckerberg sit up and pay attention?

for $150 million, he could afford to hire an awful lot of moderators…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:03:50am

re: #189 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Because conservatism is a religion. It is very easy to see as an atheist.

I remember Reagan giving a speech in which he said that the economy was not going to recover unless people believed in it. I had been raised to see Capitalism as an objectively superior system, based on facts and figures.

But it is clear: we believe in “the dignity of labor” but treat workers as just another commodity to be disposed of when no longer needed.

We believe in “family values” but make it nearly impossible for working families to survive and provide their children with the education and training to make a better life for themselves.

And we believe in “Individual initiative” which translates to the right of individuals and families with limited incomes and assets to negotiate one-on-one with multi-billion-dollar international corporations for terms of employment, insurance coverage and financial services.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:11:23am

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:16:36am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Somehow your group is seen as a major threat to our moral fortitude and by extension, the very survival of society and humanity…

Which some take as an open invitation to assault and yes, kill us.

Strange how the religious right is silent about THAT.///

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Belafon  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:17:52am

re: #175 Ming5000

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According to the US government, non-Hispanic whites make up 60.1% of the population: census.gov

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:19:22am

On a somewhat brighter note. My dentist office called and cancelled my appointment for today because of road conditions. They are in fact shutting the office down because of said road conditions.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:30:36am

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That almost makes me wonder if rural states should divide their electoral votes the way Nebraska and Maine do. In 2020, both states split their electoral votes between Biden and Trump.

However, the GOP in undivided states aren’t going to do that; it would be suicide. The GOP is on record here saying they want to abolish the divided electoral college in Nebraska (they don’t have the votes to get that though).

It’s very telling that the GOP are picking and choosing where they advocate such splitting - states that are legislative GOP majority (gerrymandering and other stuff) while the state as a whole vote Democratic; Pennsylvania, Maryland, etc.

I said before that I’d consider supporting electoral vote splitting it IF AND ONLY IF it was going to be applied to every state in the USA.

I presume the GOP will potentially go to that if Texas ever turns overall blue.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:31:59am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The US military considers Climate Change a serious national security threat. Why does she hate the military? is it too “woke” for her?

This is the part that amuses me:

All of Democrats’ favorite “threats” are all vague and intangible problems where clear-cut solutions can never be provided, therefore the “crisis” never ends.

When have Republicans ever declared a “crisis” with a “clear-cut solution”? The “War on Terror” will be old enough to drink next year, while grand-dad “War on Drugs” just turned old enough this year to sign up with the AARP. And that’s not counting the various “moral panics” in the years between, such as “CRT” which will likely disappear after the midterms much like “Shariah Law” quietly did during the Trump years.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:38:22am

re: #212 darthstar

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Sounds like a Mazda commercial to me.

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A Cranky One  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:40:01am

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:56:10am

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2021 • 8:57:22am

re: #175 Ming5000

“Again, this was TFG’s & the GOP’s great miscalculation. The data in April 2020 at a time when urban areas were being hit the most showed Black & Brown folk were the ones disproportionately dying from Covid & folk thought it was cool for Whyte folk to go back to life as usual.”

My experience at that time with affluent members of this group was that they wanted to keep the working class in the factories, meat processing plants, at restaurants and other stores, working full time to support their comfortable lifestyle, while they stayed home and worked remotely. They certainly didn’t care that these less affluent members of society were dying.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:02:58am

I second this. I fit the mold, born poor, pulled myself up by my own bootstraps, etc.
This was a useful theme back in the Dark Ages when I was a Republican. Like all other Repug themes, though, it is utter bullshit.
I benefited from, among others:
Devoted teachers who saw my potential and encouraged it in a publicly financed school system that cost millions of dollars a year to run.
The GI Bill.
The folks at Cornell University who rounded up the extra funding that the GI Bill didn’t cover, and the rich liberals who contributed that funding.
The excellent USGS maps and data that I used basically for free.
Police and fire protection. Banking regulation that kept swindlers under control.
Public roads, usable for free by anyone for any lawful purpose and many, many other valuable benefits that I did not invent or create myself.

If certain religionists are correct, I will probably spend several decades in Purgatory for the damage I did as a conservative and a Repug. Unrepentant Republicans are headed for hell, though, with the traitors and liars at the top going directly to the Ninth Circle.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:08:39am
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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:10:25am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember Reagan giving a speech in which he said that the economy was not going to recover unless people believed in it. I had been raised to see Capitalism as an objectively superior system, based on facts and figures.

But it is clear: we believe in “the dignity of labor” but treat workers as just another commodity to be disposed of when no longer needed.

We believe in “family values” but make it nearly impossible for working families to survive and provide their children with the education and training to make a better life for themselves.

And we believe in “Individual initiative” which translates to the right of individuals and families with limited incomes and assets to negotiate one-on-one with multi-billion-dollar international corporations for terms of employment, insurance coverage and financial services.

Don’t forget “personal responsibility” which says that a poor black kid from the city deserves to be in jail/prison for selling a bit of weed to afford to live, but a rich white preacher caught raiding the collection plate to fund a mistress and a coke habit deserves our understanding for his “moment of weakness.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:16:52am

re: #216 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It’s very telling that the GOP are picking and choosing where they advocate such splitting - states that are legislative GOP majority (gerrymandering and other stuff) while the state as a whole vote Democratic; Pennsylvania, Maryland, etc.

I said before that I’d consider supporting electoral vote splitting it IF AND ONLY IF it was going to be applied to every state in the USA.

I presume the GOP will potentially go to that if Texas ever turns overall blue.

I do not believe in electoral vote splitting because it is subject to the same issues as the electoral college: gerrymandering and effects of population distribution. The only fair way is to eliminate the EC entirely; anything else can lead to the candidate who wins fewer votes winning the election.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:18:07am

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

My experience at that time with affluent members of this group was that they wanted to keep the working class in the factories, meat processing plants, at restaurants and other stores, working full time to support their comfortable lifestyle, while they stayed home and worked remotely. They certainly didn’t care that these less affluent members of society were dying.

It was just the affluent in general who carried on this notion, as there were plenty of assholes on our own side of the aisle who began lodging complaints as early as last fall that things were not going “back to normal.” Which only ramped up as the vaccines were given emergency approval in December and January, leading to a spring full of complaints about the necessity of continuing to wear masks and avoid crowds. The capper was the movement to demand “apologies” to figures like DeathSantis for supposedly seeing their states through to Summer 2020 without massive die-offs despite avoiding shutdowns and mandates.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:21:54am

re: #226 Targetpractice

It was just the affluent in general who carried on this notion, as there were plenty of assholes on our own side of the aisle who began lodging complaints as early as last fall that things were not going “back to normal.” Which only ramped up as the vaccines were given emergency approval in December and January, leading to a spring full of complaints about the necessity of continuing to wear masks and avoid crowds. The capper was the movement to demand “apologies” to figures like DeathSantis for supposedly seeing their states through to Summer 2020 without massive die-offs despite avoiding shutdowns and mandates.

But the people on our side supported requiring (e.g.) meat processing plants to adopt measures to protect their workers, to limit the spread of the disease.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:25:04am

So there are only two possible explanations for Russian statistics on worldometer: omicron has not yet hit Russia to any extent or the Russians are lying. Anyone here have any contacts that would provide an explanation?

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:34:37am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

But the people on our side supported requiring (e.g.) meat processing plants to adopt measures to protect their workers, to limit the spread of the disease.

Speaking as one of the “essential workers” during the early days of the pandemic, what I can say is that so much of that was lip service. They slapped various mandates and regulations that lacked teeth, then put all the pressure on us as workers to enforce them. Then the affluent got caught time and again flouting such without any real consequence, even as they bitched their lives were being inconvenienced because various social events they wished to show off at were being canceled or their favorite guilty pleasures were denied due to lockdowns.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:41:24am
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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:43:39am

re: #230 DodgerFan1988

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Narrator: Conservatives have never understood this, because they don’t agree that it’s “corruption” when they do it.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:47:22am

The weather in Moscow: cloudy with 100% chance of journalist.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:48:43am
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Belafon  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:49:31am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:50:02am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:50:16am

re: #232 Barefoot Grin

The weather in Moscow: cloudy with 100% chance of journalist.

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For certain people in Russia Covid isn’t the problem, windows are.

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 9:51:25am

re: #230 DodgerFan1988

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- they already were assholes
- as was tfg (just a possibly richer and, in appearances, more refined asshole - remember ‘grab em’, not paying his debts, etc)
- he didn’t convince them of anything
- all he did was show them how to be an asshole in public

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:02:27am

re: #237 Dangerman

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- they already were assholes
- as was tfg (just a possibly richer and, in appearances, more refined asshole - remember ‘grab em’, not paying his debts, etc)
- he didn’t convince them of anything
- all he did was show them how to be an asshole in public

I’d split the difference: What Trump did was convince them that being total assholes in public carried no real consequences if you’re white and/or affluent. It started with “Karens” yelling and screaming at staff and ended with an attempted coup where the bulk of those arrested will have spent more time waiting in a cell for their turn before a judge than they will likely get when sentence is handed down.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:07:50am

re: #234 Belafon

It’s a challenge.

People have lots of interests and charities to match. Do you give a lot to a single charity - because that will do the most good in a single area, or do you spread it to several charities in the hopes of helping the most people even though your impact overall is reduced?

We donate regularly to a group of charities. We’ve stuck with this basket for nearly 20 years, adding a few as our circumstances have changed and dropping one or two too. Would I do better by donating to just one of them? Maybe, but this way I see needs addressed in multiple areas.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:10:48am

Schmeck is a schmuck.

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Belafon  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:14:00am

WHO SHOULDN’T TAKE THESE PILLS?

Merck’s molnupiravir is not authorized for children because it might interfere with bone growth. It also isn’t recommended for pregnant women because of the potential for birth defects. Pfizer’s pill isn’t recommended for patients with severe kidney or liver problems. It also may not be the best option for some because it may interact with other prescriptions a patient is taking. The antiviral pills aren’t authorized for people hospitalized with COVID-19…

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Belafon  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:15:45am
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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:17:01am

re: #241 Belafon

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Like every other “miracle” non-vaccine solution, they only work if you catch the symptoms early and get immediate treatment, and they carry greater risks than just getting the jab.

IOW, the people most in need of them (unvaccinated) won’t benefit from them because they largely avoid getting treatment until their symptoms are too severe to pass off as a “summer cold” or “a bout of the flu.”

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:19:12am

re: #238 Targetpractice

I’d split the difference: What Trump did was convince them that being total assholes in public carried no real consequences if you’re white and/or affluent. It started with “Karens” yelling and screaming at staff and ended with an attempted coup where the bulk of those arrested will have spent more time waiting in a cell for their turn before a judge than they will likely get when sentence is handed down.

+1 and close enough

i am being more and more convinced of parts of this:

…Trump doesn’t actually lead the MAGA crowd. He merely is pretty good at figuring out where it wants to go and getting in front of it so it looks like he is leading it. Once in a rare while—like right now—he guesses wrong. Instead of changing direction to follow the leader, the crowd boos the leader and continues to do what it was going to do anyway. This is only one issue and if COVID-19 isn’t much in the news by 2024, Trump can probably survive this episode without too much damage, but it might make him more careful about saying things that displease the monster he created. (V)

that’s why i dont think he ‘created’ the monster or convinced it of much.
more like he sort of corralled it, harnessed it to let their freak flag fly while he leeched off of it

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:20:43am

re: #242 Belafon

Ron Deathsantis has to work hard to keep his nickname, you know.

/

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Captain Magic  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:20:51am

I had to put Ozzie on the Rainbow Bridge.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:20:53am

re: #240 The Pie Overlord!

Schmeck is a schmuck.

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So much of the bullshit we’ve seen in recent years has been about finding ways to make a buck off trolling.

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Belafon  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:21:19am
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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:21:42am

re: #241 Belafon

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tested?
prescriptions?

hah!

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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:21:52am
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cat-tikvah  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:22:39am

re: #246 Captain Magic

Oh no, I’m so sorry.
It hurts so much to let them go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:22:55am

re: #246 Captain Magic

I had to put Ozzie on the Rainbow Bridge.

{{hugs}}
Glory is there waiting for him (she loves cats and her two cats here miss her as much as we do).

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:23:49am

re: #237 Dangerman

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- they already were assholes
- as was tfg (just a possibly richer and, in appearances, more refined asshole - remember ‘grab em’, not paying his debts, etc)
- he didn’t convince them of anything
- all he did was show them how to be an asshole in public

That may be true for many of them and certainly a position I’ve held, but I think that anyone is susceptible to brainwashing under the right circumstances. Let’s recall the song “You’ve Got To Be Carefully Taught” from South Pacific.

“You’ve Got To Be Carefully Taught” - SOUTH PACIFIC (1958)

The song errs in thinking that only the very young can learn to hate; even those who are older may fall into the trap. Several articles have profiled people being led into Qanon and how difficult it was for them to eventually escape. If you are bombarded by hate messages, especially when there is some real precipitating event (e.g. 9/11), you too can treat everyone who belongs to a certain group - racial, religious, national - as an enemy, even when such categorization is unfair or even when members of the group are not irredeemable.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:27:58am

re: #246 Captain Magic

I had to put Ozzie on the Rainbow Bridge.

My deepest sympathy. It is such a painful decision.

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steve_davis  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:30:45am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

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“You are going to Wayne County Jail for 93 days for direct criminal contempt.” Wow. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200 dollars.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:31:45am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:34:25am

re: #248 Belafon

The NHL season might well be fucked at this point too. Especially with cross border games becoming a serious problem.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:35:16am
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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:35:51am

re: #23 Dread Pirate Ron

Jeff Tiedrich
@itsJeffTiedrich
Brandon doesn’t give a fuck what you call him, he’s too busy being an adult

I’m old enough to remember when - “Biden is drunk.”

Dunno if the folk making or believing that claim knew that Biden doesn’t drink alcohol.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:36:22am

re: #255 steve_davis

And really deserves to be there

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:38:26am

re: #244 Dangerman

+1 and close enough

i am being more and more convinced of parts of this:

that’s why i dont think he ‘created’ the monster or convinced it of much.
more like he sort of corralled it, harnessed it to let their freak flag fly while he leeched off of it

That’s the thing about conmen, they’ll often have a string of failures before they hit that one con that nets them serious money/fame/power/etc. Donny’s whole MO has been to slap his name on everything he can, so that if some of it succeeds then he builds his “brand” while the failures are blamed on others. Before he ran for the presidency, most of his failures usually just resulted in a shrug because he was seen as “harmless.”

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:39:04am

re: #253 Hecuba’s daughter

That may be true for many of them and certainly a position I’ve held, but I think that anyone is susceptible to brainwashing under the right circumstances. Let’s recall the song “You’ve Got To Be Carefully Taught” from South Pacific.

[Embedded content]

The song errs in thinking that only the very young can learn to hate; even those who are older may fall into the trap. Several articles have profiled people being led into Qanon and how difficult it was for them to eventually escape. If you are bombarded by hate messages, especially when there is some real precipitating event (e.g. 9/11), you too can treat everyone who belongs to a certain group - racial, religious, national - as an enemy, even when such categorization is unfair or even when members of the group are not irredeemable.

+1

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:39:30am
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wrenchwench  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:40:32am

I have a retired (supposedly) geek of a brother who called me on Christmas and one of the things he asked was whether I knew what the L2 orbit was. Now I do. Geek approved, thanks Charles.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:43:44am

Sheesh! Still 363 days till Christmas and people already have decorations out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:45:53am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:48:49am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Ron DeSantis was the Inn Keeper in the Christmas story, he not only would have told Mary and Joseph there were no rooms available, he would promptly have had them escorted off his property and burned the fucking manger down to keep them from going there, too.

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wrenchwench  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:51:41am

re: #267 Eclectic Cyborg

If Ron DeSantis was the Inn Keeper in the Christmas story, he not only would have told Mary and Joseph there were no rooms available, he would promptly have had them escorted off his property and burned the fucking manger down to keep them from going there, too.

Greg Abbott would put Jesus up for adoption.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:52:10am

re: #250 Dave In Austin

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That’s sweet. When we picked up our rescue she was pretty scared. We had a bit of trouble getting her to go into the rear seat of the car. But then, about 25 minutes into the drive home, she came up between the front seats, gave me a lick on the cheek, and then went back to my son in the rear. Sometimes they want us to know they know.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:52:51am

re: #246 Captain Magic

Sorry to hear that. {{{Captain Magic}}}

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:53:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:53:25am

ok, then…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:55:22am
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darthstar  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:55:53am

re: #218 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Sounds like a Mazda commercial to me.

Speaking of cars, the Tesla service man just showed up at the door - early - and is re-sealing the front ball joint arms…and will top off the air pressure on all four tires while he’s here. And he does this all in a matter of minutes…from another Tesla.

The dogs are watching him from the dining room window to make sure he does a good job. We just have to let it sit for an hour or so and not drive it in the rain so the new seal has a chance to harden.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:57:25am

re: #246 Captain Magic

I’m so sorry for your loss.

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:57:34am
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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:58:10am

re: #274 darthstar

Speaking of cars, the Tesla service man just showed up at the door - early - and is re-sealing the front ball joint arms…and will top off the air pressure on all four tires while he’s here. And he does this all in a matter of minutes…from another Tesla.

The dogs are watching him from the dining room window to make sure he does a good job. We just have to let it sit for an hour or so and not drive it in the rain so the new seal has a chance to harden.

Make sure they use synthetic headlight fluid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:58:43am
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dharmamark  Dec 27, 2021 • 10:59:43am

re: #246 Captain Magic

Sorry for your loss.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:00:49am

oh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:02:47am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:03:16am

re: #246 Captain Magic

I had to put Ozzie on the Rainbow Bridge.

I am so sorry my friend.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:03:31am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well all knew the Christianity part of it was just smoke and mirrors to try and justify their bigotry.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:07:45am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Ok, I watched most of “Don’t Look Up” just because I didn’t want to let my aversion to David Sirota stop me, and that aversion probably colors my reaction but I’m not sorry, but this is definitely not a good movie. It’s ham-handed over-obvious satire. I have no idea how they got so many famous actors to participate.

Your mileage may differ. I thought it sucked. Mightily.

I thought the cockroach crawling out of the rubble after the comet strike (no spoiler alert necessary) was a nice touch.

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:09:35am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

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a couple of weeks ago someone wrote to electoral-vote.com and asked a question:

“Which is more important for the faithful, belief in the divinity of Jesus or following the teachings of Jesus?”

yeah their letters columns range far and wide

this one’s representative:

…Easy. Belief is expressed by what you do and not what you say. Anyone who professes “belief in the divinity of Jesus” but does not follow the “teachings of Jesus” is trying to have it both ways. Such individuals therefore do not really believe what they profess.

The “out” the Bible provides is that belief in the divinity of Christ supposedly provides for forgiveness of sin and everlasting life. However, circumspect theologians have taught, for centuries, that ignoring Christ’s teachings by willfully engaging is sinful behavior does not guarantee absolution at the end. In other words, belief is necessary but not sufficient—it must be accompanied by “good deeds.”

Unfortunately, the modern world has more hypocrites than it does True Christians who follow Christ’s teachings and share Christ’s values. “Followers of Christ” do not include many American Evangelicals who do not follow or understand Christ’s “Sermon on the Mount.” Pope Francis clearly does and is therefore a True Christian.

The situation is akin to Conservatives who profess support of the Constitution of the United States but have issues with the 14th Amendment’s provision of “Equal Protection under the Law,” particularly for those who do not look like themselves. You can’t have one without the other. If you try, you are, by definition, a hypocrite.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:13:55am

re: #277 Shropshire Slasher

Make sure they use synthetic headlight fluid.

Everything about that car is synthetic. The only fluid is windshield wash. My goal is to teach the car to leak oil.

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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:14:51am

re: #284 BeenHereAwhile

I thought the cockroach crawling out of the rubble after the comet strike (no spoiler alert necessary) was a nice touch.

That was Sirota’s cameo?

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A Cranky One  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:17:57am

re: #246 Captain Magic

So sorry for your loss.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:20:12am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:22:23am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

MY G-D THAT ARTICLE IS TRULY VOMITOUS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:23:12am
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darthstar  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:24:55am

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:25:53am

re: #284 BeenHereAwhile

I thought the cockroach crawling out of the rubble after the comet strike (no spoiler alert necessary) was a nice touch.

Okay, so the comet does destroy the planet? Now I have to finish the damn thing - or skip ahead to the last five minutes.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:25:53am

re: #246 Captain Magic

I had to put Ozzie on the Rainbow Bridge.

Sorry to hear that. How do so many years feel like so few?

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No Malarkey!  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:26:07am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

Unbelievable. Morally depraved.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:27:10am

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:29:29am

re: #295 No Malarkey!

Unbelievable. Morally depraved.

Good on that judge for giving the girl’s mother 93 days to think about her behavior…and yes, she’s going to prison for decisions she made. All the bros in the back were looking pretty subdued by the end of that.

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plansbandc  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:47:52am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

We need more judges like her. And not just on the bench. We need them in stores, in restaurants, at concert venues, on the street. We need to harshly judge those who think it’s OK to be disruptive assholes.

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Nojay UK  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:48:40am

re: #284 BeenHereAwhile

I thought the cockroach crawling out of the rubble after the comet strike (no spoiler alert necessary) was a nice touch.

Followed by Keef Richards?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:53:51am

re: #242 Belafon

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 27, 2021 • 11:54:32am

re: #255 steve_davis

“You are going to Wayne County Jail for 93 days for direct criminal contempt.” Wow. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200 dollars.

Fuck around (being a total shitstain) and find out

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2021 • 12:05:46pm

re: #246 Captain Magic

So sorry, man.
It’s always so hard.


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Ranked-Choice Voting Has Challenged the Status Quo. Its Popularity Will Be Tested in November. JUNEAU — Alaska’s new election system — with open primaries and ranked voting — has been a model for those in other states who are frustrated by political polarization and a sense that voters lack real choice at the ...
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